Living in a SoCal Forest (never has had timber harvesting because … not enough timber), I so appreciate the discussion which takes anti-timber, pro-environment out of the discussion because it does NOT belong in the discussion here.
That said, land use approvals right up to or very near to the USFS line by municipalities in my county is ridiculous. When I was doing a lot of land use advocation for the community I live in, not once did the USFS or any other federal agency comment in regard to how inappropriate that kind of zoning approval is though the EIRs would have been distributed to them.
I cannot say that the municipalities would listen to the USFS arguments against building up to the USFS line but I do know they did not care about us making that argument. I was able to get a buffer zone status put between the USFS line into county land areas use areas and this was formally entered into the County General Plan . Interestingly, the county could never figure out what do with the Buffer Zone (like, say, do not build in it! DOH) or what it was for when it should’ve been perfectly obvious.
Excellent interview and discussion - learned lots!
The discussion on 'liabilities' I think is critical - if the local utility is always sued into oblivion with each fire (or suspected fire) then there won't be a utility around. So somehow containing the liability - especially for prescribed burns seems to be a big need.
Any discussion and/or interviews in that arena would be great!
Zeke has some solid viewpoints. And Tim just picture the material of mine that Russell emailed you a few days ago, coupled with this guys approach.
The problem again is you’ve heard me mention many many times as we teach nothing to no one about basic fire, thermo dynamics. This is a failure about the art of war philosophy.
Living in a SoCal Forest (never has had timber harvesting because … not enough timber), I so appreciate the discussion which takes anti-timber, pro-environment out of the discussion because it does NOT belong in the discussion here.
That said, land use approvals right up to or very near to the USFS line by municipalities in my county is ridiculous. When I was doing a lot of land use advocation for the community I live in, not once did the USFS or any other federal agency comment in regard to how inappropriate that kind of zoning approval is though the EIRs would have been distributed to them.
I cannot say that the municipalities would listen to the USFS arguments against building up to the USFS line but I do know they did not care about us making that argument. I was able to get a buffer zone status put between the USFS line into county land areas use areas and this was formally entered into the County General Plan . Interestingly, the county could never figure out what do with the Buffer Zone (like, say, do not build in it! DOH) or what it was for when it should’ve been perfectly obvious.
The people are caught in the middle here.
Common sense discussion. And when Zeke said we should not rebuild burnt communities that can not be mitigated, makes even more sense.
Excellent interview and discussion - learned lots!
The discussion on 'liabilities' I think is critical - if the local utility is always sued into oblivion with each fire (or suspected fire) then there won't be a utility around. So somehow containing the liability - especially for prescribed burns seems to be a big need.
Any discussion and/or interviews in that arena would be great!
thanks again!
Zeke has some solid viewpoints. And Tim just picture the material of mine that Russell emailed you a few days ago, coupled with this guys approach.
The problem again is you’ve heard me mention many many times as we teach nothing to no one about basic fire, thermo dynamics. This is a failure about the art of war philosophy.